imperfect of πειθω?
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imperfect of πειθω?
This replaces a query I answered on my own. I don't know how to just delete a query once it has appeared.
The way I found the answer was this: I did a google search on the exact Greek word that was bothering me. Among the hits was a dictionary entry that showed me that I had confused one word with another word.
That's my "Hail Mary" play for this kind of problem.
The way I found the answer was this: I did a google search on the exact Greek word that was bothering me. Among the hits was a dictionary entry that showed me that I had confused one word with another word.
That's my "Hail Mary" play for this kind of problem.
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Re: imperfect of πειθω?
Why don't you post what you found, so that others can find the answer too when they stumble across this thread? (I always have trouble keeping forms of πείθω and πάσχω apart myself).
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Re: imperfect of πειθω?
I confused two different words,jeidsath wrote:Why don't you post what you found, so that others can find the answer too when they stumble across this thread? (I always have trouble keeping forms of πείθω and πάσχω apart myself).
#1. πειθω
#2. επιθuμεω.
The problematic word in the exercise was επεθυμουν, which the answer key translated "were eager to".
I was trying to make επεθυμουν be a form of #1, πειθω, which led me into much confusion. That in turn led to my Hail Mary google search on επεθυμουν, which made me decide to stop looking at πειθω.
I'm leaving the middle/passive of πειθω for another day. I'm still too weak at punching the verb tables to get to this quickly.
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Re: imperfect of πειθω?
"επεθυμουν"
It can be easy to miss the augment on επι- verbs. If you aren't ready for it, you might see ε-πεθυμ-ουν (augment-root-suffix) when it's actually επ-ε-θυμ-ουν (prefix-augment-root-suffix)
It can be easy to miss the augment on επι- verbs. If you aren't ready for it, you might see ε-πεθυμ-ουν (augment-root-suffix) when it's actually επ-ε-θυμ-ουν (prefix-augment-root-suffix)
“One might get one’s Greek from the very lips of Homer and Plato." "In which case they would certainly plough you for the Little-go. The German scholars have improved Greek so much.”
Joel Eidsath -- jeidsath@gmail.com
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Re: imperfect of πειθω?
Many thanks, jeidsath!jeidsath wrote:"επεθυμουν"
It can be easy to miss the augment on επι- verbs. If you aren't ready for it, you might see ε-πεθυμ-ουν (augment-root-suffix) when it's actually επ-ε-θυμ-ουν (prefix-augment-root-suffix)
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Re: imperfect of πειθω?
I'm curious as to why you'd do a Google search for this before using the Perseus word study tool?hlawson38 wrote: The way I found the answer was this: I did a google search on the exact Greek word that was bothering me. Among the hits was a dictionary entry that showed me that I had confused one word with another word.
That's my "Hail Mary" play for this kind of problem.
Example:
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/mor ... ek#lexicon
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Re: imperfect of πειθω?
Perhaps a little morphology would have helped. There’s no way επεθυμουν could have anything to do with πείθω. πειθ- could not reduce to πεθ-, and where would the –υμ- have come from? (θυμ- on the other hands, is very common, θυμος etc.etc.) And remember that the imperfect of –ω verbs is always perfectly regular, and uses the present stem, with augment: επειθ-ον –ες –ε(ν) –ομεν –ετε –ον. Unlike Latin, where you have all those pesky conjugations to contend with.
Easy in retrospect, of course.
Easy in retrospect, of course.
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Re: imperfect of πειθω?
I haven't figured out how to use Perseus for Greek.npc wrote:I'm curious as to why you'd do a Google search for this before using the Perseus word study tool?hlawson38 wrote: The way I found the answer was this: I did a google search on the exact Greek word that was bothering me. Among the hits was a dictionary entry that showed me that I had confused one word with another word.
That's my "Hail Mary" play for this kind of problem.
Example:
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/mor ... ek#lexicon
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Re: imperfect of πειθω?
There are instructions at DIY Classics for creating a keyboard shortcut to Perseus Latin or Greek herehlawson38 wrote:I haven't figured out how to use Perseus for Greek.
https://diyclassics.com/2014/08/15/sear ... e-firefox/
The instructions are for the Latin dictionary, but just a tiny change makes it work for Greek, too. Hope this helps.
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