Pindar, Pythian 1

Are you reading Homeric Greek? Whether you are a total beginner or an advanced Homerist, here you can meet kindred spirits. Besides Homer, use this board for all things early Greek poetry.
Post Reply
TheinenGH
Textkit Neophyte
Posts: 16
Joined: Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:49 pm

Pindar, Pythian 1

Post by TheinenGH »

Hello everyone
From what I've read of Pindar, I'm really in love with this particular composition.
I just have this difficult in scaning it, does someone have the metrical scheme for it?
:)

User avatar
seneca2008
Textkit Zealot
Posts: 2006
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2015 1:48 pm
Location: Londinium

Re: Pindar, Pythian 1

Post by seneca2008 »

You will find this link helpful http://hypotactic.com/latin/index.html?Use_Id=pythians. Although others will offer comments on its accuracy.
Persuade tibi hoc sic esse, ut scribo: quaedam tempora eripiuntur nobis, quaedam subducuntur, quaedam effluunt. Turpissima tamen est iactura, quae per neglegentiam fit. Et si volueris attendere, maxima pars vitae elabitur male agentibus, magna nihil agentibus, tota vita aliud agentibus.

seanjonesbw
Textkit Enthusiast
Posts: 527
Joined: Tue May 22, 2007 7:06 pm
Location: Wales

Re: Pindar, Pythian 1

Post by seanjonesbw »

seneca2008 wrote: Mon May 20, 2019 12:08 pm You will find this link helpful http://hypotactic.com/latin/index.html?Use_Id=pythians.
What an amazing resource! I wish I'd had this when I was trying to puzzle out hexameter.

TheinenGH
Textkit Neophyte
Posts: 16
Joined: Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:49 pm

Re: Pindar, Pythian 1

Post by TheinenGH »

seneca2008 wrote: Mon May 20, 2019 12:08 pm You will find this link helpful http://hypotactic.com/latin/index.html?Use_Id=pythians. Although others will offer comments on its accuracy.
Oh gods, this is wonderfull. Thank you.
Btw, can someone explain why, in the first line, " καὶ " is scanned short?

User avatar
jeidsath
Textkit Zealot
Posts: 5332
Joined: Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:42 pm
Location: Γαλεήπολις, Οὐισκόνσιν

Re: Pindar, Pythian 1

Post by jeidsath »

Btw, can someone explain why, in the first line, " καὶ " is scanned short?
Epic correption. Very common in Homer, which you may wish to tackle before Pindar. A long vowel at the end of a word before another word beginning with a vowel, will often (though not always) scan as short.

I've just corrected the wikipedia article on correption, which made the false claim that it only occurs before short vowels. That error has stood in the first line of the article since 2010, despite being obviously incorrect. (Compare Α.29: τὴν δ’ ἐγὼ οὐ λύσω· πρίν μιν καὶ γῆρας ἔπεισιν.)
“One might get one’s Greek from the very lips of Homer and Plato." "In which case they would certainly plough you for the Little-go. The German scholars have improved Greek so much.”

Joel Eidsath -- jeidsath@gmail.com

Post Reply