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Hi Amy,

Are there any Roman style treats on your menu for Christmas?

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I'm probably just doing cheesecake. I remember seeing the tasting history guy doing a Placenta video about that, but I haven't looked into it yet! :D

I redid the salad dressing video in Latin here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW0ByFBb41w

notes: https://internetkindness.com/Recipes/HarmlessSalad.pdf

but I might just some local history videos and stuff on pizzelle (already plural, so pizzelles is double plural and singular is pizzella I guess? my Italian is not good!).

sometimes my uncle who is a chef or the other uncle from out of state brings me ingredients I can't find locally so I can use them for videos though, my gram is getting older so they are visiting more often!

I am also still reading through more of the German/Latin Apicius book still!

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AmyOfRome wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:55 pm I'm probably just doing cheesecake. I remember seeing the tasting history guy doing a Placenta video about that, but I haven't looked into it yet! :D

I redid the salad dressing video in Latin here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW0ByFBb41w

notes: https://internetkindness.com/Recipes/HarmlessSalad.pdf

but I might just some local history videos and stuff on pizzelle (already plural, so pizzelles is double plural and singular is pizzella I guess? my Italian is not good!).

sometimes my uncle who is a chef or the other uncle from out of state brings me ingredients I can't find locally so I can use them for videos though, my gram is getting older so they are visiting more often!

I am also still reading through more of the German/Latin Apicius book still!

I will be doing a variation of the salad dressings you have gone through for the salad I will be serving for Christmas lunch Amy so thank you :D . If I don't get to you after this wishing you and your family a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year 2023! Please do keep up posting about Roman food and drinks - I'm a huge fan!

Cheers.
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Villanelle wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 3:14 am
I will be doing a variation of the salad dressings you have gone through for the salad I will be serving for Christmas lunch Amy so thank you :D . If I don't get to you after this wishing you and your family a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year 2023! Please do keep up posting about Roman food and drinks - I'm a huge fan!

Cheers.
Thanks, same to you! I am still working on the pizzelles and some others, lol! But I made a short dog biscuits thing. A more historically accurate one might "throw your dog whatever food you don't want," haha!

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Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0jkmINeZcg


crustula canis facio. Unum poculum de farina, unum ovum, cinnamōmum, interdum facio crustula cum pulmentum e pomis vel peanutbutyro vel cucurbita. Misce. si mixtura nimis sicca est, augmenta cum rebus humidis, exempli gratia cum ovo vel cum pulmento e pomis, applesauce, anglice. si mixtura nimis humida est, augmenta cum farina. coque 20 min. inseca mixtura cum formis, cum cookiecutters, anglice, vel cum cultello, si tu formas non habes.

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AmyOfRome wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:27 am
Villanelle wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 3:14 am
I will be doing a variation of the salad dressings you have gone through for the salad I will be serving for Christmas lunch Amy so thank you :D . If I don't get to you after this wishing you and your family a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year 2023! Please do keep up posting about Roman food and drinks - I'm a huge fan!

Cheers.
Thanks, same to you! I am still working on the pizzelles and some others, lol! But I made a short dog biscuits thing. A more historically accurate one might "throw your dog whatever food you don't want," haha!

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Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0jkmINeZcg


crustula canis facio. Unum poculum de farina, unum ovum, cinnamōmum, interdum facio crustula cum pulmentum e pomis vel peanutbutyro vel cucurbita. Misce. si mixtura nimis sicca est, augmenta cum rebus humidis, exempli gratia cum ovo vel cum pulmento e pomis, applesauce, anglice. si mixtura nimis humida est, augmenta cum farina. coque 20 min. inseca mixtura cum formis, cum cookiecutters, anglice, vel cum cultello, si tu formas non habes.


What did the dogs think of these? They ate them up and enjoyed them?

Cheers.
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Villanelle wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:20 am What did the dogs think of these? They ate them up and enjoyed them?

Cheers.
They enjoyed them, I've seen copycat MilkBone biscuit recipes with dairy ingredients and chicken stock, of course they'd enjoy meat ingredients too but many biscuits are based on the basic flour/water idea.

I've seen vegan recipes substituting applesauce for eggs in muffin recipes, which I thought was interesting. Of course dogs eat meat and animal products, but I mean it can work as a binder like the eggs do.

I've also made my dogs birthday "cakes" using mostly pumpkin, flour, and some peanut butter.

I've ordered some spelt flour and am meaning to get back to the panis quadratus (for humans!) though, I haven't been happy enough with my results, aesthetically, yet. and i've been watching bread videos. I have decided I like all the things on top of bread, sesame seeds, poppy seeds, fennel seeds.

Depends on the dog though, mine like anything. Sweet potatoes, biscuits, apples, peanut butter.

another attempt at bread with spelt flour:
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So what's been cooking so far this year Amy?

More dog treats as well as some human stuff?

Cheers.
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Villanelle wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:32 am So what's been cooking so far this year Amy?

More dog treats as well as some human stuff?

Cheers.
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I made a Latin version (click for larger) of a re-created pizza from the video game Silent Hill 2, it's just a cutscene in the game where the character Eddie is seen eating a pizza, so I zoomed in and figured out which toppings he had.

Only have video in English so far on my other channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE3-QEpA8Cs

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AmyOfRome wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 2:24 am
Villanelle wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:32 am So what's been cooking so far this year Amy?

More dog treats as well as some human stuff?

Cheers.
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I made a Latin version (click for larger) of a re-created pizza from the video game Silent Hill 2, it's just a cutscene in the game where the character Eddie is seen eating a pizza, so I zoomed in and figured out which toppings he had.

Only have video in English so far on my other channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE3-QEpA8Cs

That is awesome! I love it! :D
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Have been busy with other things but am working on something on flatbread and moretum now that I've seen the Pompeii fresco with flatbread and the Tasting History video!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moretum
https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moretum

Fresco: https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/2023 ... of-pompeii

Max Miller Tasting History-"Making the 2000 year old 'Pizza' from Pompeii"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEgSGkp8nMA

bit rough but here is a start
Scriptores multi antiqui de moreto scripsērunt. Moretum constat ex caseo, herbis variis, oleo, sale et pipere.

Max Miller dicit, caseum album est quod Virgil scripsit caseum album et herbae virides ferculum faciunt, "e pluribus unum" scripsit.

et in poema de Aeneide, Publius virgilius Maro scripsit, homines mensas edunt. mensa est table anglice sed quoque panis planus esse potest. panis qui planus est pizza imitat. sed iam homines multi flatbread edunt. romani antiqui lycopersicos non habebant, sunt de americis. itaque ius lycopersicōrum non habebant. fortasse caseum cum pane edēbant sed panis neque pizza erat.

My moretum is a bit white, should be light green all over rather than white with green herb pieces in it, but i was too lazy to chop them to that point, even in the food processor, i guess.
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so from what i can gather, the fresco shows flatbread with cheese spread and fruits, maybe nuts, etc. Virgil wrote about "mensas" being eaten which, here, means both table and bread-plate, thus, kind of a pizza crust/round flatbread. moretum is a cheesy spread used in ancient rome with many variants, and the kind with pine nuts may be the ancestor of modern pesto sauce, like the idea of putting your food on a "bread plate" may be the ancestor of making a pizza. I used basil and dried cranberries on top because that's what I had in the kitchen. was good. just think cheese spread on bread.

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AmyOfRome wrote: Sun Jul 16, 2023 2:41 am Have been busy with other things but am working on something on flatbread and moretum now that I've seen the Pompeii fresco with flatbread and the Tasting History video!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moretum
https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moretum

Fresco: https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/2023 ... of-pompeii

Max Miller Tasting History-"Making the 2000 year old 'Pizza' from Pompeii"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEgSGkp8nMA

bit rough but here is a start
Scriptores multi antiqui de moreto scripsērunt. Moretum constat ex caseo, herbis variis, oleo, sale et pipere.

Max Miller dicit, caseum album est quod Virgil scripsit caseum album et herbae virides ferculum faciunt, "e pluribus unum" scripsit.

et in poema de Aeneide, Publius virgilius Maro scripsit, homines mensas edunt. mensa est table anglice sed quoque panis planus esse potest. panis qui planus est pizza imitat. sed iam homines multi flatbread edunt. romani antiqui lycopersicos non habebant, sunt de americis. itaque ius lycopersicōrum non habebant. fortasse caseum cum pane edēbant sed panis neque pizza erat.

My moretum is a bit white, should be light green all over rather than white with green herb pieces in it, but i was too lazy to chop them to that point, even in the food processor, i guess.
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so from what i can gather, the fresco shows flatbread with cheese spread and fruits, maybe nuts, etc. Virgil wrote about "mensas" being eaten which, here, means both table and bread-plate, thus, kind of a pizza crust/round flatbread. moretum is a cheesy spread used in ancient rome with many variants, and the kind with pine nuts may be the ancestor of modern pesto sauce, like the idea of putting your food on a "bread plate" may be the ancestor of making a pizza. I used basil and dried cranberries on top because that's what I had in the kitchen. was good. just think cheese spread on bread.

How long did it take to make this Roman style pizza from start to finish - including baking time and preparing and spreading the topping?

Good to see you're still here on Textkit! I was wondering where you had got to all year! :)

Cheers and happy cooking !
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Probably 30 min or so, I baked the bread crust for about 20 of that and spent the rest using the food processor on the cheese, oil, herb mixture. I did let the crust cool a little so the basil leaves didnt' turn black.

cheers though! good to see you also.

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bedwere wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 3:44 am
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Wow that looks nice! Did you make it for Christmas lunch? It kind of reminds me of a hot X bun which we eat a lot of around Easter time here.
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Villanelle wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 5:01 am

Wow that looks nice! Did you make it for Christmas lunch? It kind of reminds me of a hot X bun which we eat a lot of around Easter time here.
Yes, I did. It was a great success both my wife and our 16-month-old baby loved it.


Original recipe Marci Catonis, De Agri Cultura, 75
Libum hoc modo facito. Casei P. II bene disterat in mortario. Ubi bene distriverit, farinae siligineae libram aut, si voles tenerius esse, selibram similaginis eodem indito permiscetoque cum caseo bene. Ovum unum addito et una permisceto bene. Inde panem facito, folia subdito, in foco caldo sub testu coquito leniter.
My recipe:

1 cup of masa harina (we are gluten free)
1 15oz/425g whole-milk ricotta tub
1 egg
bay leaves
honey

Mix first three ingredients. Bake over bay leaves for 40 minutes in oven at 375F/190C. Slather with honey. When the honey is absorbed, it's ready.

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That does sound nice and very easy to make. Thank you for sharing the recipe and good to hear the whole family enjoyed it as a Christmas treat!

Cheers.
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